“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(The last time Seth’s entity spoke was in the 446th session for November 6, 1968. We had wondered at times why the entity hadn’t spoken more often; Seth has said little about his entity, and we did not ask that this personality speak tonight.

(At 9:16 Jane said she was waiting to see what developed, that she was getting a hint of the pyramid feeling; which usually means that Seth’s entity will speak in place of Seth. See the 406th to 412th sessions for detailed material on the circumstances involving the personality we call Seth’s entity.

(A very interesting session developed tonight, also. Thinking Seth would speak as usual, I read to Jane another question that had come to mind as I typed up last session. The question wasn’t answered however so it will not be quoted here. Nor did Seth speak. His entity held the session instead.

[...] Jane didn’t know whether Seth, or his entity, would speak. Shortly before she went into trance at 9:15, she whispered to me “The other one,” meaning that Seth’s entity would speak. [...]

We are Seth, and whenever we have spoken we have been known as Seth. The entity had its beginning before the emergence of your time.

[...] We are therefore always a part of the one entity which is the Seth entity. [...]

(The session is included in the regular series because of the voice effects; the fact that both Seth & his entity spoke; some new ideas from both entities; and because no regular session was held the next day, Wednesday, July 16.

(All of the following is by Seth’s entity.)

So I am the Seth that is beyond the Seth that you know. And in me the knowledge and vitality of that Seth still rings. In your terms I am a future Seth. [...]

(Seth’s entity, who is nameless in our terms, spoke this evening, rather than Seth. See the 464th session for February 10, 1969; this is the last time this entity spoke to us. Seth’s entity hasn’t spoken many times; the 464th session and earlier ones contain detailed notes as to the manner of speaking used by the entity, etc.

(At 9:09 Jane told me that for the first time in a long time she felt like “the other personality,” meaning Seth’s entity. [...]

[...] The voice was very high, thin, formal, quite distant, and quite faint when contrasted against Seth’s delivery. [...]

[...] Just above us is Seth; above both is the new development that we have come to call Seth’s entity; this is the peak of the cone. [...]

(We wondered why Seth’s entity chose to give this data, since it seemed Seth could have done so. [...]

He is a part of the overall entity that did become physical, although now in your terms that portion of his existence is finished. [...] This last sentence referred I believe to Seth’s entity itself, from inflections given.) In one way I am a whole that is more than the sum of its parts, while I am also a part of more than I am. [...]

[...] Seth’s entity spoke instead, though. Jane sat quite still for some few moments; when I noticed her seeming to grope for words, soundlessly moving her lips, I felt Seth’s entity would give the session. The air cooler was on, and the entity’s first words were hard to hear—I had to lean close. [...]

(Note that this is the first time that Seth’s larger entity has spoken about personal matters. Jane said she used “they” in talking about Seth and his entity, then said that perhaps “there are more than the two of them.”)

(Jane thought Seth would speak if a session were held, but this did not prove to be the case. However at 8:55 Jane got flashes from Seth that perhaps Seth was educating other personalities on midplanes to contact personalities on our plane.

(Jane said she didn’t really want to speak for Seth’s entity tonight, if that’s what she was trying to do, so I suggested she break it off. Jane said “things were significant in the room,” a phrase she has used before when preparing to speak for Seth’s entity, or Seth II as we sometimes call “him.”)

(This session was held to obtains answers to two questions we had for Seth. Both pertained to Jane’s book on the Seth material, which she is just finishing. [...]

[...] These whole selves then are a part of your entity. Your probable selves are also a part of your entity, however. [...]

(The session is included in the regular series [Session 494] because of the voice effects; the fact that both Seth and his entity spoke; some new ideas from both entities; and because no regular session was held the next day, Wednesday, July 16. [...]

[...] Jane then was speaking for Seth’s entity. [...]

[...] Jane said she felt it was a good session, an unusual occasion to get some new ideas, so she went along with Seth and his entity. [...]

[...] Tonight she not only did feel like a session, but shortly before it told me that she believed the larger Seth personality, the Seth entity as we call it, would speak.

(It seemed this might complicate matters, so I expressed the preference that Seth speak instead. [...]

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

[...] The other two personalities (Ruburt and Seth’s entity) have been involved at my request, for purposes having to do with our material and purposes.

[...] She said she knew what blocking Seth was referring to; she felt herself “come up” just before break. The material Seth wanted to discuss was about Jane and Ruburt and Jane’s writing. Jane believed it was an extension of the arrangement Seth mentioned briefly on page 124, when he talked about Jane accepting inspiration and ideas from Ruburt without realizing it.

(Tam Mossman, editor at Prentice-Hall; they are considering publishing the Seth material. [...] Therein Seth stated that Jane would receive “rather unexpected word concerning a book.”

(Once again Jane began speaking for Seth’s entity, as we have come to call the personality beyond Seth; her voice had the same higher and distant, clearly enunciating quality as before. There was no greeting to us as Seth usually gives. [...]

[...] With Seth, she always felt he was present, immediate, alive and strong. With the new source, Seth’s entity, Jane said she feels it is way up above her, talking; but once she gets the first word there’s no problem.

Seth is of course a part of the session whether or not he speaks, as you are accustomed. In one way Ruburt’s pyramid image is quite legitimate, for you and he are at the base, with Seth in the middle and myself at the top. [...]

[...] In Chapter 1 of The Seth Material Jane described how we began these sessions [on December 2, 1963] through our use of the Ouija board. During the first three sessions the material came from a Frank Withers — who, it developed in the 4th session, was one of the “personality fragments” making up the Seth entity, or whole self. Just before Seth announced his presence to us in that same session, Frank Withers spelled out a remark through the board that meant little to Jane and me at the time: “One whole entity may need several manifestations, even at simultaneous so-called times.”

(Seth himself first used “counterpart” in the 6th session for December 11, 1963. [...] The newly begun sessions already contained a number of unfamiliar terms and ideas: In the 4th session three days earlier, for instance, Seth had just given us our entity names [Ruburt for Jane, Joseph for me], and touched upon the psychic links connecting the three of us. [...]

(“Well,” I said to Jane after class, as we discussed the Chinese-American situation cited by Seth, “I don’t know about counterpart relationships in other kinds of realities, but it’s certainly obvious that at least some physical counterparts can hate each other …” So the larger self, I thought, would be quite capable of seeking experience through its parts in every way imaginable. Although it might be difficult for us to understand, let alone accept, the whole self or entity must regard all of its counterparts as sublime facets of itself — no matter whether they loved, suffered,⁵ hated, or killed each other or “outsiders.” [...]

(“Good evening, Seth.” Seth’s entity name for Jane is Ruburt—he, him, his.)

(“Jane has been psychically involved with her mother’s entity before, hasn’t she?”)

(Question at break: “Does my entity have anything to do with Jane’s symptoms?"

(I found myself wondering how it was possible for Jane to be speaking for Seth, while at the same time being aware of Seth’s entity. I was not sure if this is quite the same situation that has prevailed in the past when Jane has spoken for both Seth and his entity during the same session.)

(This was a surprise, and it took me a moment to realize that Seth was referring to his own larger personality, his entity as we call it, and for whom Jane has occasionally spoken in a much different voice. [...]

(When she could finally talk Jane revealed that she had been experiencing a concept to accompany the personality’s words; this she has done before when speaking for Seth’s entity, and we have been told before that this is one of the reasons or purposes for her speaking for this new personality. [...]

(Jane said that when she speaks for Seth’s entity “it’s like I’m emptying myself out up there someplace,” and that when Seth speaks “he fills me up.” [...]

(I also wanted to ask Seth just how we would know the presence of his entity, but did not interrupt since Seth seemed to want to keep speaking.)

(When Jane did begin to speak at 9:11, she used the same high, somewhat distant and quite precise voice as before, the one belonging to what we call, somewhat inaccurately, Seth’s entity. [...]

(In the 54th session Seth went into considerable detail in explaining the construction of entities. [...] As everything else does, entities constantly change. To quote Seth: “Ruburt is not myself now, in his present life; he is nevertheless an extension and materialization of the Seth that I was at one time... [...] He is now an actual gestalt, a personality that was one of the probable personalities into which Seth could grow. [...]

(Seth then continued to explain how I am also an offshoot of that early Seth entity. Thus Jane, myself, and our present communicator, Seth, are related psychically; it is this that makes our sessions possible, according to Seth.)

[...] Frank Watts, it will be remembered, was our communicator; the present Seth entity did not announce his presence until the 4th session, when he superseded Frank Watts.

[...] Ruburt is Seth’s entity name for her. [...] Questions arose out of the discussion, and Seth returned in a couple of minutes to answer some of them rather vehemently if briefly.)

[...] (Philip is John’s entity name according to Seth.) The trouble that you have is of your own making.

[...] John brought with him confirmation of some of Seth’s predictions given in the 439th session, to Jane’s pleased surprise. [...] John is going to go over the session material, using his recorder, to sum up Seth’s predictions to date re Searle.

[...] Remember that Seth’s entity name for John is Philip.)

[...] The problem will be solved by mankind indeed; but mankind is composed of reincarnational entities. It is quite within the probabilities that the statistics will reverse themselves and that for no reason that scientists can discover, children are born stillborn, as in a mass epidemic, and that entities simply refuse to inhabit the bodies made for them. [...]

([John and I:] “Good evening, Seth.”)

There would be no experience of what Ruburt (Seth’s “entity” name for Jane) calls “the dear privacy of the moment,” so if one portion of your being wants to rise above the solitary march of the moments, other parts of your psyche rush, delighted, into that particular time-focus that is your own. [...]

[...] This applies equally to Ruburt and Joseph (Seth’s entity name for me). Thus far, my books have included Joseph’s extended notes. [...]

On some relatively few occasions, for example, Ruburt has been able to contact what he calls “Seth Two.” [...] (Long pause.) There is a much closer relationship, in that I recognize my own identity as a distinct portion of Seth Two’s existence, where Ruburt feels little correspondence. In a manner of speaking, Seth Two’s reality includes my own, yet I am aware of my contribution to “his” experience.

[...] This effect symbolizes Jane and me at the bottom or base of the pyramid, with Seth in the middle and Seth’s entity, represented by the new voice, at the top or peak.

[...] Jane left trance easily, saying that she still had a trace of the pyramid effect even while Seth spoke—and at the end of the session. Seth had been his usual energetic self, in marked contrast to the cool and distant voice of his entity, so called.)

(Here Seth refers to the suicide of a woman last Wednesday, May 22. A few weeks ago Seth gave a recorded session for the woman at the request of a member of Jane’s ESP class. [...]