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TES2 Session 83 August 31, 1964
libido
Freud
Jung
cooperation
advocating
– The Early Sessions: Book 2 of The Seth Material
– © 2012 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 83 August 31, 1964 9 PM Monday as Scheduled
When these have been passed then the diligent, consistent, intuitive and flexible seeker after knowledge will find horizons of which Freud never dreamed. Freud merely touched the outer boundaries. Jung, with his eyes clouded by the turmoil set up by Freud, glimpsed some further regions, but poorly.
Your Freud and Jung have probed into the outer, personal subconscious. Jung saw glimpses of other depths, but that is all. There are rather unfortunate distortions occurring in Jung’s writings, as well as in Freud’s, since they did not understand the primary, cooperative nature of the libido. We will involve ourselves in a much more thorough study along these lines, as we come to another body of subject material.
I was concerned somewhat with Ruburt’s reading of Jung, simply because while he seems to offer more than Freud, in some aspects he has attempted much, and his distortions are fairly important, in that seeming to delve further and offering many significant results, he nevertheless causes insidious conclusions. All the more hampering because of his scope.
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TPS4 Deleted Session August 29, 1977
Darwinian
Freudian
Darwin
teeth
competition
– The Personal Sessions: Book 4 of The Deleted Seth Material
– © 2016 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Deleted Session August 29, 1977 9:45 PM Monday
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As per James, it was no coincidence that the beliefs of Freud and Darwin merged so well to form western society’s idea of the self, physically and psychologically.
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Darwin’s theories, and Freud’s for that matter, will in the future be seen as any other antiquated, outmoded system—yet from their ashes will rise new ways of interpreting and experiencing reality.
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Ruburt went from a strict religion, embracing both Darwin finally, and Freud also, as liberators from old doctrines—not realizing of course that he was substituting one dogma for two, period.
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UR2 Appendix 18: (For Session 711)
appendix
Jung
excerpts
animus
particles
– The "Unknown" Reality: Volume Two
– © 2012 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Appendix 18: Seth on His Own Reality; on His Past, Present, and Future Relationship With Jane and Rob; and on the Inner Mechanisms of the Sessions
– (For Session 711)
“Freud courageously probed into the individual topmost layers of the subconscious, and found them deeper than even he suspected.
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After that passage the diligent, consistent, intuitive, and flexible seeker-after-knowledge will find horizons of which Freud never dreamed. Freud merely touched the outer boundaries. Jung, with his eyes clouded by the turmoil set up by Freud, glimpsed some further regions, but poorly.”
“Your Freud and Jung have probed into the personal subconscious.
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There are rather unfortunate distortions occurring in his writings, as well as in Freud’s, since they did not understand the primary, cooperative nature of the libido….
Below, I’ll quote very short passages from sessions 555–56 in Chapter 13 of Seth Speaks, while referring the reader to them at the same time, then present some additional material from the 83rd session that I saved for this note — since in it Seth discussed the theories of both Jung and Jung’s famous teacher, Sigmund Freud (1856–1939).
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TES6 Session 244 March 23, 1966
Peggy
locations
photograph
envelope
switch
– The Early Sessions: Book 6 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 244 March 23, 1966 9 PM Wednesday as Scheduled
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In this particular section he told the reader that he suspected that Freud’s terms, the ego, or the conscious and the subconscious, had in themselves led you seriously astray.
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In Freud’s terminology, the dice are indeed loaded, on the side of the conscious mind.
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TES3 Session 143 April 5, 1965
illness
visitors
Sonja
pills
Louis
– The Early Sessions: Book 3 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 143 April 5, 1965 9 PM Monday as Scheduled
(About the subconscious: According to Freud the subconscious is often held to blame for present ego difficulties.
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Seth has discussed Freud and Jung to some extent, in the 83rd and 119th sessions, among others.
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SDPC Preface
Sonja
Jack
program
television
camera
– Seth, Dreams and Projections of Consciousness
– © 2011 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Preface
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In Freud’s terminology, the dice are indeed loaded on the side of the conscious mind.
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Flying dreams are not all disguised sexual fantasies, as Freud maintained, for example.
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TES3 Session 106 November 11, 1964
Kiley
Nan
Playboy
November
doctor
– The Early Sessions: Book 3 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 106 November 11, 1964 9 PM Wednesday as Scheduled
As for example Freud added a dimension to your world with his discovery of the true subconscious, as far as he was able to perceive it.
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SDPC Part Three: Chapter 12
dream
recall
locations
investigation
recorder
– Seth, Dreams and Projections of Consciousness
– © 2011 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Part Three: Exploration of the Interior Universe — Investigation of Dream Reality
– Chapter 12: Dream Recall: How to Remember Your Dreams — Dream Investigation
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Like many people, Mrs. Taylor was brought up on a combined emotional porridge of orthodox religion and Freud. In her mind, Freud’s ideas of repressed subconscious material merged with religious teachings of hell and the origin of sin.
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TPS5 Deleted Session August 13 1979
worth
yeoman
equal
Europe
parentage
– The Personal Sessions: Book 5 of The Deleted Seth Material
– © 2016 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Deleted Session August 13 1979 9:29 PM Monday
(10:12.) If men were considered equal, however, the ideas of Darwin and Freud came along to alter the meaning of equality, for men were not equal in honor and integrity and creativity—or heroism: —they were equal in dishonor (louder), selfishness, greed, and equally endowed with a killer instinct that now was seen to be a natural characteristic from man’s biological past.
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TES3 Session 119 January 6, 1965
outer
ego
Jung
subconscious
animus
– The Early Sessions: Book 3 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 119 January 6, 1965 9 PM Wednesday as Scheduled
(It will be recalled that in the 83rd session, August 31, 1964, [in Volume 2], Seth commented on the work of Freud and Jung, and mentioned some of the distortions Jung’s work in particular contains.)
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TPS4 Deleted Session December 3, 1977
newspapers
news
heroism
organizations
world
– The Personal Sessions: Book 4 of The Deleted Seth Material
– © 2016 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Deleted Session December 3, 1977 9:41 PM Saturday
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When you read the news or hear it, however, because of cultural beliefs you are programmed to behave in a certain fashion, in a fashion that validates, seemingly, the concepts of Freud and Darwin, and the most unfortunate aspects of Christian pessimism.