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TES2 Session 83 August 31, 1964 6/76 (8%) libido Freud Jung cooperation advocating
– The Early Sessions: Book 2 of The Seth Material
– © 2012 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 83 August 31, 1964 9 PM Monday as Scheduled

[... 10 paragraphs ...]

There are a few points that I would like to make of a general nature. Ruburt has been reading Jung, though not consistently. The libido does not originate in the individual subconscious of the present personality. It originates instead in the energy of the entity and inner self, and is directed by means of the inner senses, outward so to speak, through the deeper layers of the individual subconscious mind, then through the outer or personal layers.

Your Freud and Jung have probed into the outer, personal subconscious. Jung saw glimpses of other depths, but that is all. There are rather unfortunate distortions occurring in Jung’s writings, as well as in Freud’s, since they did not understand the primary, cooperative nature of the libido. We will involve ourselves in a much more thorough study along these lines, as we come to another body of subject material.

[... 19 paragraphs ...]

I was concerned somewhat with Ruburt’s reading of Jung, simply because while he seems to offer more than Freud, in some aspects he has attempted much, and his distortions are fairly important, in that seeming to delve further and offering many significant results, he nevertheless causes insidious conclusions. All the more hampering because of his scope.

[... 17 paragraphs ...]

Jung feared, basically, such a journey because he felt that it led only to the racial source. He feared that anyone involved in such a study would end up in the bottleneck of a first womb; but there, there is an opening-up into other realms, through which the libido also passed. Figuratively speaking, it squeezed itself through the bottleneck, and there is a lack of limitation on the other side.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

When these have been passed then the diligent, consistent, intuitive and flexible seeker after knowledge will find horizons of which Freud never dreamed. Freud merely touched the outer boundaries. Jung, with his eyes clouded by the turmoil set up by Freud, glimpsed some further regions, but poorly.

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

(Break at 10:37. Jane was dissociated as usual. She said she had been reading Jung lately, though very desultorily and not at all avidly. She resumed dictation in the same quiet manner at 10:40.)

[... 14 paragraphs ...]

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