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I do depend upon Ruburt’s willingness to dissociate. There is no doubt that at times he is unaware of his surroundings during a session. However, this is no more binding upon him than autosuggestion. It is a phenomena in which he gives consent, and he could, at any time and in a split second, return his conscious attention upon the physical environment.

There is no danger, and I will repeat this: There is no danger of dissociation grabbing a hold of him like some black, vague and furry monster, carrying him away to the netherlands of hysteria, schizophrenia, or insanity… I have consistently advised contacts with the world at large, and I have advised you both to use your abilities to meet outside challenges. Withdrawal into dissociation as a hiding place from the world could, of course, have dire consequences. Certain personalities could, and have, fallen prey here, but with you, with Ruburt, this is not the case.

Also, Ruburt has experienced and used dissociation, though to a lesser degree, before our communications; that is, in his work, and knows how to handle it. I do not want either of you to be worried. On the other hand, I don’t want Ruburt to fight me, either.

It is true that the conscious mind must be relaxed to some extent, and that a state of apparent dissociation is necessary. Now, believe it or not, this will not always necessarily be the case. You can have two doors open at once. You can listen to two channels at once. But until you learn to focus in two directions, and this is simplified to a pathetic degree, in the meantime you simply turn down the volume of the first channel, while you attract your attention to the second. This process you call dissociation.

(Jane had no dissociation during this monologue. She now told me that in the beginning of the session she had deliberately “held off” any dissociation, being quite upset by the psychiatrist’s letter. She also reported that her hands felt fat again, and upon examination her fingers did seem to be somewhat swollen, compared to their usual state. Both forefingers especially looked enlarged. However, the phenomena did not return for the balance of the session. And since she exhibited no voice changes this need not be mentioned for the balance of the session. Resume at 9:42.)

(Break at 10:02. During this recitation, Jane was pretty much dissociated. Resume at 10:08.)

(Break at 11:02. Again, Jane said that she was pretty well dissociated during the above delivery. Resume at 11:06.)

(End at 11:35. Jane was quite dissociated in the beginning of this monologue, but she reports that as it drew to a close the state grew less.)