“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(See the 41st session for Seth’s first long dissertation on the spacious present. This was delivered April 6. The 44th session includes much on the basic laws of the inner universe also, as do the other sessions received during this period. As this material continues to expand it becomes more difficult to pinpoint references on a subject to a given few pages.)

At this point of course the self moves beyond or through the particular midplane involved. The term itself merely applies to a reference point duration that has meaning only in so far as it is related to a specific personality that is in a transitional frame between dimensional actualities.

The personality itself therefore, as a mental action, is responsible for the point or midplane, for without the personality or mental act, this particular reference point or midplane would have no meaning.

Remembering again your material of the spacious present, a portion of personality retention however still surrounds those physical reference points with which the personality was familiar.

There is usually strain involved here, since points of reference must be changed. The personality is already immersed in a dimensional transformation; when the emotional need of those within the physical plane call out for communication, they add to the pull or force of the attraction still present, binding portions of the personality to the physical field, and can add to the resistance encountered by personalities in transformation.

By this time he can change his reference points, although his experience is so much more vivid, and so much fuller proportioned, that to him the experience could be likened to going down into a small cramped tunnel.

(Jane delivered the above paragraph with a smile. It is true that she, and I to a lesser extent, have begun to read up on our physics. Both of us have largely neglected the subject since school days, although of course we came across references to it in other reading, since the subject plays such an important part in everyday life now. Jane has been quite surprised to find many references in these books that tally with what Seth has said. Many other points in the books have served as jumping-off points for Seth’s material, also.)

In his reading he came across a statement to the effect that imaginary two-dimensional people could not comprehend a three-dimensional system. You are obviously in the physical system, and according to your terms fourth dimensional. Your dream world, of which I have spoken, could be compared to a third-dimensional universe. However, the dimensions of which physics speaks are, again, the result of your own point of reference, and of the system in which you are enclosed.

Width, height, length have no meaning in dimensions that do not have existence in space as you know it. Time as a reference point has no meaning in a dimension that has its existence wholly within the spacious present.

Such a reference point does not exist there. I have told you many times that planes or fields, or dimensions of activity, whatever you prefer to call them, move through each other often, and do not collide. If their reference points were the same, they would collide.

(I presume here that by “earliest session” Seth refers to his first material on the fifth dimension, given in the 12th session. Space as a fifth dimension was however also referred to in the first session. See Volume 1, page 8. This first session material was given to us through Frank Watts, however. Frank Watts is a fragment of Seth’s entity. Seth stated recently that the Seth material begins when he announced his presence to us by name, and this would be in the 4th session. See the 85th session, Volume 2, page 336, for Seth’s statement concerning the Frank Watts material.)

You can see that in that fifth-dimensional existence there can be no constants as far as reference points are concerned, since by the very nature of the dimension, camouflages are adopted to fit numberless other dimensions as the structure itself continually changes.

When I say there can be no communication, I speak of course from my own points of reference. There are even other physical dimensions which do not appear physical to you, your antimatter being one. But there are many others. Some dimensions, or planes or fields, contain others, and some are sufficient unto themselves, with others dependent upon it, as for example your fifth dimension as I have explained it.

There are chemical as well as psychic reasons for these effects, and at some times of course he operates more efficiently than others. During sessions there is a constant translation of energy from one dimension-plane to another, and on his part a change of reference points, allowing for such translations to occur.

I will say merely that when during these sessions Ruburt is open, so to speak, to other reference points both within and without your system, there is a vulnerability to other influences. He has spontaneously set up automatic resistances that block such influences, or open channels through which their effects may enter your system.

(October 30, 11:30-12 noon, Friday: Immediately upon lying down I felt strongly that I would hear by mail this weekend, today or tomorrow, about a sale of the ESP book to Fell, I believe, with a contract. It could have referred to a sale of a short story I suppose, but did think it meant the book. I had emotional high spirits at the time of the experience, as if I’d already heard.